Sun Lakes Republican Club Minutes
When: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:30PM-8:30PM
Where: Sun Lakes Country Club Phase One Navajo Room
Who: Approximately 160 people
AGENDA:
- SLRC Chairman, Michael Tennant, greeted the attendees and led the group in the Invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance.
- Michael then introduced the SLRC board.
- First VC Carolyn McCorkle introduced our main speakers Keith and Sam DeGreen.
- The first of the DeGreens to speak was Sam. Investment Advisor Sam DeGreen is President of DeGreen Private Wealth (DPW) in Scottsdale, AZ. He hosts a weekly radio show “Freedom Through Finance” Saturdays from 6-7 PM MST on News Talk 550 AM KFYI. His contact info is Sam@DeGreenWealth.com or
www.DeGreenPrivateWealth.com. In his talk, he laid out the general financial outlook for the coming year saying that, according to past statistics, it looks quite positive. - After Sam’s talk there were questions and answers, then he turned the podium over to his Dad, Keith DeGreen. Keith is the founder and recently retired CEO of DeGreen Capital Management in Scottsdale, AZ. This was his 4th appearance for SLRC. This time his talk was entitled “Donkeys, Horses, Stolen TVs, and Wellington’s Pigeons”. In his humorous, but educational way he explained the main things going on in the news today and how they will affect the economy. The
“Donkeys” are the symbol of the Democrats. DeGreen explained the impact of the Supreme Court’s Printz Decision (1997) and Sanctuary cities and states. What if “Horses” could vote? How will new technologies affect our labor markets? Remember the recent strikes? Keith explored the dockworkers’ fight against automation and why it matters. “Stolen TVs”, anyone? DeGreen also examined black markets and free markets, and why we need tariffs-especially to keep
China in its place. Regarding “Pigeons”, another critical area affecting our financial future is the speed of information vs people. The internet has replaced pigeons as the next fastest resource of information. As usual he did not fail to inform and entertain his audience! His speech is attached to the end of these minutes. His parting insight was that “DOGE” will be an important attempt at reining in government spending. Although it may not initially cut back spending it will surely
move spending from some useless areas to other more important areas, like defense. This will be “a long term generational attempt” and will require the assistance of us “older folks” to instruct and inform our families to keep them “on course”. The world is changing. Three quarters of countries around the world are changing course along with us to a more right leaning way of governing. “Meritocracy” is the way to go forward. Seek, hire and raise up workers who are
well trained and reward them appropriately. - After the DeGreens were finished speaking, AZ House of Representative Jeff Weninger spoke on what is going on at the State Capitol and what we can expect to take place in the near future. Even though he is technically a “new” member he has already been picked for 4 important committees. One of these is as the Chairman of the Commerce Committee. Some of the things the legislature will be exploring are : shortening the time between the election and receiving election results and finding ways to relieve businesses from having bear the high cost of the credit card processing fees they pay on the sales taxes that they are forced to collect for the State on each transaction. Other issues they will tackle are: making laws to keep the names of witnesses to crimes anonymous until after the trials, solving water supply issues for the state, and finding solutions for low income housing.
- Kurt Rohrs was the final speaker this evening and shared information about the Chandler School District. He shared three important points.1. He is promoting a “Path to Success” for each Chandler student. This is the idea of Career-focused academics, so that each child has a plan for the future when they graduate. 2. We should be teaching kids, not taking care of kids’ social issues: 70% of Hispanic children are not at grade level, 80% of black children are not at grade level, etc. 3. Ryan Heap was elected to the Board, so now CUSD has 2 conservative board members but there are 3 liberal ones, so they can still be outvoted. The
Chandler school bond issue did not pass. Thanks to Kurt who was able to inform the community that the exorbitant bond amount of $487 million being requested was not justified. About half of the Sun Lakes’ resident’s property tax bill goes to fund Chandler schools! CUSD has about 1,000 fewer students per year, The lower enrollment (at approx. $7,000 per student in state ADA funding) adds up to $7 million. Birth rates are down and the cost of living in Chandler is out of reach for many younger families looking for housing here. There is more school competition: the best schools (like Basha and Hamilton) are still at full enrollment. Parents will send their students to the best option they can find. Conclusion: CUSD has to cut costs just like the rest of us. - The winner of the 50/50 raffle won $53 tonight!
- Attached is Keith DeGreen’s speech
Keith DeGreen’s speech:
If there is a theme to my comments tonight it is this: provided we maintain our unique American commitment to the concept of merit – a concept that was nearly lost amidst the recent DEI insanity (and that remains largely lost in many European democracies) — and as long as we abide by the faith-based tenants of our founders, America’s future remains bright. What is equally certain is that there are incredible changes ahead – changes that we can barely imagine!
I mentioned the lack of a merit-based economy in much of Europe. Only in America are risk-takers, pioneers and investors so well rewarded. Consider: While Europe has created 14 companies worth more than $10 billion in the past 50 years, with about $400 billion of market value in total, Americans have created nearly 250 such companies, worth $30 trillion.
That success has driven up America’s middle-class incomes. The median disposable U.S. household income, according to the OECD, is now 25% greater than the median German household and 60% greater than the median household in Italy. And a final example: the American company, Apple.com is worth more than the 30 largest German companies combined. We reward merit – and we must never stop!
President Trump’s re-election certainly marks a sea-change in American political culture. It also reflects a mood that is sweeping across many democratic nations around the world. It is fair to say that the Progressive Moment in Global Politics is over. Democracies held 60 generally peaceful nationwide elections last year. The result: Three-quarters of governments in the European Union are either led by a right-of-center party or by a coalition that includes at least one such party.
And the shift is set to continue. Canada appears poised to kick out a deeply unpopular progressive prime minister and Germany is expected to dump its center-left government. Polls show the top two parties in Germany represent the center-right and the so-called far-right.
As voters here at home and abroad demand change – as they demand governments more responsive to THEIR needs, there is hope – there is ALWAYS hope when democracy prevails!
But we face challenges. Here at home, Democrats have controlled the White House for 12 of the past 16 years. During that time America’s defense capabilities have withered in comparison to China’s, and our stature has declined throughout the world.
China, incidentally, is not our greatest potential adversary. It is our greatest current adversary. By all necessary means, the government of China works every day to replace democratic capitalism with worldwide socialist authoritarianism.
You know… throughout history, regardless of the political or economic system, some people always manage to get rich, and some always manage to stay poor. The difference is that democratic capitalism rewards merit – what you accomplish.
Authoritarian socialism rewards proximity to power as with socialist plutocracies where who you know is far more important than what you accomplish.
Countries sometimes loosely – sometimes tightly – aligned in today’s authoritarian socialistic sphere include China, Russia and its satellites, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Vietnam, and a growing list of African nations – a continent upon which violence is at its highest point since 1946.
In addition, China has also bought its way into critical infrastructure within countries not otherwise aligned with their authoritarian objectives. One case in point? Panama.
Today, Chinese companies control both the Pacific and Atlantic entrances to the canal.
When I ran for the U.S. Senate in 1988, my opponent – a Democrat incumbent – had been the deciding vote to give away the canal. Had I been in the Senate, we might still control of that vital waterway today.
President Trump has promised an “America First” policy; but America first is not America alone. And it is not America withdrawn from the world. It is America as a world leader that defends freedom as an absolute precondition of our very existence, but that demands of our allies an equivalent sacrifice on their own behalf.
I might add that in 2016 when President Trump first took office, only five out of 28 members of NATO met their annual 2% commitment to national defense. And one of them was the U.S.
Today, 23 of NATO’s 32 member states are meeting their commitment. Expect more as President Trump continues to hold their feet to the fire.
It is a very positive sign that not just Americans, but world leaders, embraced President Trump as our de facto leader immediately after the election and well before he has taken office. Why? Because the world abhors a vacuum; and for the past four years the free world has been without a leader. But, thanks to you – and to more than 77 million other Americans — that changed on election night!
During the Obama and Biden administrations we watched as world events eerily mimicked the regional unrest and rise of authoritarianism our parents and grandparents witnessed during the 1930s. BY FAR, my greatest concern for the future is that OUR grandchildren will be called upon to fight a world war against a ruthless axis of aligned authoritarian regimes.
We MUST therefore remain strong to remain free – FULL STOP.
But to rebuild our strength, we MUST improve government efficiency.
The success of Elon Musk’s and Vivek Ramaswamy’s Department of Government Efficiency – DOGE – is essential for the success of our nation now and for the foreseeable future.
But DOGE, the President, and all like-minded Americans have an uphill battle ahead as we fight massively entrenched governmental and corporate interests.
Government efficiency is not just about spending less money. With massive defense needs we may not be able to spend less. It is about spending every dime more efficiently. If we do THAT, our economy will grow, and tax revenues will increase — even after we make permanent the Trump tax cuts. Without it, we are in real trouble!
Speaker Johnson quoted Calvin Coolidge on January 3rd as he took the Speaker’s gavel: “Innovation thrives when bureaucracy dies”, he said. How true!
And President Reagan also accurately described the attitude of the bureaucracy this way: “If it succeeds, tax it. If it moves, regulate it. If it fails, subsidize it,”
But increasing government efficiency will be a generational effort. This is why we MUST build and support common-sense conservative governance at ALL levels of our political system, to help the next generation of conservative fighters advance!
That’s also why I encourage you — The Sun Lakes Republican Club – and all Republican organizations — to invite young conservatives to come speak. There is no better way for them to learn to refine their positions, and to polish their skills at persuasion.
But wait! I promised you a discussion of donkeys, horses, stolen TVs and Wellington’s pigeons.
So, let’s get to it!
Donkeys
Let’s start with donkeys – specifically those Democrats in so-called sanctuary cities and states who have vowed non-cooperation with the administration’s efforts to arrest and deport millions of illegals.
President Trump’s has picked Governor Kristi Noem to head the Department of Homeland Security, and Tom Holman as “Border Czar”.
But what obstacles do they face in dealing with so-called sanctuary cities and states?
Well, this falls under the heading of “you better be careful of what you hope for because you’re likely to get it. In 1997, the Supreme Court, in Printz v. United States, struck down a provision of President Clinton’s Brady Bill that required local law enforcement to conduct background checks on firearm purchasers, ruling that such federal mandates violated the 10th Amendment. The decision reaffirmed the principle of “anticommandeering,” which prohibits the federal government from forcing states or local governments to carry out federal programs or policies.
At the time, most of us conservatives supported that decision.
Today, Printz is precisely what many so-called Sanctuary cities and states hide behind as they refuse to cooperate with Federal Immigration officials.
They argue that under Printz, they are not required to assist federal immigration authorities in enforcing federal immigration laws, such as detaining individuals on behalf of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). This has become a cornerstone in defending sanctuary policies against federal challenges.
However, Governor Noem and Mr. Holman have plenty of Federal Statutes they can use to compel local cooperation.
Under 8 USC SS 1373 and related statutes — they can definitely prosecute public officials who take affirmative action to obstruct Federal enforcement or who restrict communication with federal immigration authorities regarding an individual’s citizenship or immigration status.
Local officials can also be held both criminally and civilly liable on racketeering and conspiracy charges for harboring illegals who commit violent crimes.
My sincere hope is that the Administration, in cooperation with Homeland Security and the Justice Department, makes an example of law-breaking state and local officials who obstruct this fundamental Federal function, and that they prosecute those individuals to the fullest extent of the law!
After all, sometimes it takes a 2×4 to get the attention of a donkey.
Horses
Now, let’s switch from donkeys to horses…and a certain pet peeve of mine – and really something to affects your budget every day.
Here’s my premise: if horses could vote, we wouldn’t be driving cars.
In 1908, when the first Model T rolled off the assembly line, there were 88 million Americans. BUT there were also 21 million horses – nearly one horse for every four people!
Now, imagine if those horses could vote. And suppose they could even unionize! Why, they would have gone on strike in a heartbeat against the job-threatening “automation “ of the automobile. Even the name — “AUTO-mobile” — posed a threat to the livelihood of horses!
“Save our jobs!” would have been their refrain; and if they could have gone on strike, the entire country would have been shut down.
Just imagine Mr. Ed as a union member: Wilbur…we’re going on strike until you abolish cars and save our jobs! Well, the fight against automation is alive and well. Recently, President Trump expressed support for the International Longshoremen’s Association (ILA) in their labor negotiations with the U.S. Maritime Alliance (USMX).
He said that he opposes further automation at ports, and he urged foreign shipping companies to invest in American labor rather than machinery.
Look, I love President Trump. But he is dead wrong on this. Remember, one-third of our economy is based on international trade.
You know, I’m an avid sailor, and I see the dangerous shipping mess along our west coast ports all the time. We ALL pay a huge premium for the inefficiency of America’s ports – for the delays incurred by both inbound and outbound container ships at our ports. Time is money. Serious money. How much do you think it costs for hundreds of massive cargo ships, each carrying 8,000-to-24,000 containers, to anchor outside of, or to sit in a port because they can’t load or unload their cargo in a timely manner? All 345 million of us pay a serious premium for that.
Well, the next dockworker’s strike deadline is next week – January 15, and they may strike over… automation.
Hello Wilbur! How bad are the delays at U.S. ports? Get this: of the 405 ports worldwide that the World Bank’s Port Performance Index rates for efficiency, our highest-rated port is Philadelphia which ranks 50th in the world!
Yes, only 50th in terms of efficiency! In fact, only 8 of our ports crack the top 100 at all!
These inefficiencies cost Americans billions of dollars every year!
Meanwhile, if we do the obvious and automate our ports to the greatest extent possible, many dockworkers can find a new line of MEANINGFUL work right there on the docks.
I won’t bore you with all the statistics, but only a tiny percentage of the 22,000 CATEGORIES of goods shipped into the U.S. each year are inspected when they arrive.
The contraband, including drugs, pouring into the U.S. through our ports is enormous.
So…we have about 45,000 dockworkers who may go on strike against automation. We have some of the world’s most inefficient ports on both coasts, we have contraband pouring into the U.S., and we have 345 MILLION Americans overpaying for everything that is shipped into this country due to inefficiency.
Of the dockworkers who might be displaced by automation, don’t you think we could find work for many of them inspecting the countless goods imported into our country every year?
And frankly, even if we can’t put them all to work on the docks, well…tough! We have no sympathy for unproductive government workers. Why should we apologize for dumping expensive inflation-causing positions anywhere? Remember: America runs on MERIT! There are plenty of jobs out there, and there will be even more in a Trump economy.
Meanwhile, our entire country pays more and waits longer for the goods we consume because we – the United States of America – the dominant economic force on the planet – because WE have some of the world’s most inefficient ports!
So, to Hell with Mr. Ed. We need to automate our ports!
STOLEN TV’S
OK, let’s now talk about – of all things – stolen TVs. I raise this topic in defense of President Trump’s plan to impose massive tariffs on China and substantial tariffs on many of our friendlier trading partners. Here’s the thing: if I open a store, inventory some TVs and sell you one at my lowest and best price, THAT’S competition. THAT’s a free market.
But if I steal a TV off the back of a truck and sell it to you for half of what that store owner can offer, that’s not a FREE market. That’s a BLACK market.
Also, if I’m a big company – or government — and I choose to sell an item at a loss indefinitely – until I run all my competitors out of the market, that is not FREE pricing.
That’s PREDATORY pricing. It’s anti-competitive and is outlawed in many countries.
For example, it is forbidden here in the U.S. by the Sherman Anti-Trust Act.
Well, China does both. It steals our technology off the back of a truck, and it uses virtually unlimited government money to subsidize companies that produce and sell goods to us at a loss – until they run their American competitors out of business.
Regarding our technology, China routinely steals stuff off the back of the proverbial truck. Cyber-crime and corporate espionage are just two of their techniques. The Chinese Communist Party rewards people who steal our technology and it threatens those who refuse to do so.
Meanwhile, China simply ignores basic internationally accepted patent protections by reverse engineering otherwise protected intellectual
property.
Examples of Chinese predatory pricing include industries such as steel and aluminum, solar panels, electric vehicle batteries and components, furniture, textiles and apparel, chemicals, and rare earth elements – to name a few.
Unfortunately, China is not alone in this practice. To a lesser extent, other countries – even democratic countries – sponsor “national champions” – industries they favor whose international trade they wish to promote. Through tax breaks, subsidies, targeted laws, and outright grants, these countries also practice predatory pricing – selling at below what would be the cost of bringing products to market in a truly free market.
None of this is “Free Trade”. It is Mercantilism, predatory pricing, and outright theft.
Incidentally, I have spoken to you before about so-called “national champions.” The Biden Administration leaned heavily toward alternative energy as a national champion; and yet, here in America the ONLY national champions we should have – that we should EVER have – are individual citizens who assume the risks – and enjoy the rewards — of a free market.There’s that concept again – MERIT!
So, until China stops stealing stuff off the back of our truck, President Trump has every right to slam the door shut!
Wellington’s Pigeons
Finally, let’s talk about the future and…Wellington’s pigeons. It’s been suggested that General Wellington used carrier pigeons to send messages across the battlefield to defeat Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo. Some historian dispute this, but what is indisputable is that carrier pigeons have been used since ancient times – even as early as 3000 BC in Egypt and Mesopotamia.
In addition to pigeons there seem always to have been a handful of other primitive techniques for conveying small amounts of information quickly. These included smoke signals, mirrors on mountaintops, and flag signals between ships. Horns or church bells could also convey basic messages.
But except for these crude techniques, real information – detailed information – could travel no faster than people. The fleet-of-foot runner, the horseman, the ship, all required humans who brought with them edicts, treaties, books and letters.
One great example: the Battle of New Orleans was fought AFTER the U.S. and Great Britain had signed the Treaty of Ghent to end the War of 1812. But news of the treaty did not reach the U.S. by ship until after the battle had been fought.
So, it is fair to say – except for the few primitive exceptions I have mentioned – that for almost all of human history – for thousands upon thousands of years — substantive information could travel no faster than human beings could travel. We were the masters of information because we brought it with us.
That all changed just 188 years ago. That was the year – 1837 – when Samuel Morse, along with his colleagues Leonard Gale and Alfred Vail invented the first practical telegraph system. And suddenly, information – data – could travel faster than people.
Just seven years later, in 1844, the first telegraph line was installed between Washington DC and Baltimore Maryland.
Samuel Morse’ first message on that line was a question: “What hath God wrought?”
What hath He wrought, indeed! Less than three lifetimes ago the world changed. For the very first time — information could travel faster than people. Nothing has been the same since.
Meanwhile, just 43 years after the invention of the telegraph, in 1876, Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone. The telephone went into commercial use two years later.
Then, Marconi invented the radio in 1895. Television was invented about 22 years later in 1927, and by the 1950s Americans were manipulating our rabbit ears to watch our favorite shows.
But still, progress marched on. In 1983 the first commercial cell phone service was launched.
Then came the internet. It became accessible to the public in the early 1990s – only about 40 years ago — with the invention of the World Wide Web by Tim Berners-Lee. By the mid-90s people were up on browsers like Mosaic and Netscape, and the rest – as they say – is history.
Again, for thousands upon thousands of years, until just 188 years ago – less than three lifetimes ago — substantive information could travel no faster than people. People were the masters of information. But today, trillions of bits of data travel across more than 870,000 miles of internet cables worldwide – constituting 95% of global internet traffic while thousands of satellites and towers facilitate cell service worldwide.
Now, information – traveling at very nearly the speed of light — is our master.
Sure, people travel more rapidly than ever as well. We retired Mr. Ed for the automobile, and the jet plane to name just two speedy-travel techniques. But the rate at which we travel is nothing – absolutely nothing — compared to the speed at which information travels.
The sad implication of all this is that we have become a siloed society: third-party observers to an avalanche of information that periodically engages us, but that rarely involves us.
We carry a portal to the world in our pocket, and without a doubt, the information we can instantly harvest from our phone dwarfs what we might have spent years attempting to research before.
But with the rise of the internet, TV, radio, cell phones and all other forms of electronic communication, we have become a third-person society. Watching, listening, reading and commenting at a safe distance, too often away from any real-world interaction with our fellow man.
And, when it becomes easier and faster to share information, opinions and insults electronically than in person we risk becoming detached from the consequences of our words. How many inane insults are hurled across the internet each second that would never be uttered face to face? How many ill-conceived pre-conceived internet notions of each other could be corrected with an in-person handshake. With an in-person look in the eye, an in-person “How do you do?”.
We thirst for human contact. Why are you here tonight? Could you not have held a Zoom meeting? Could you not have just listened in on your phone. Could you not have just waited for someone to send you a summary of the meeting?
The fact is that we meet in person because we need to. We need human contact. And in today’s siloed world where we can sit for hours in isolation watching TV, listening to the radio, and scrolling for entertaining or opinion-reinforcing videos on our phones or iPads – in this world – first person human contact becomes more important than ever.
Involvement becomes more important than engagement.
Remember – for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years – information could travel no faster than people travelled. Human contact was not just desirable. It was essential for our survival. It still is – regardless of developments over the past 188 years.
How things have changed in our lifetimes!
But one thing is certain: change continues to accelerate; and here’s what’s interesting. Over millennia, humans always seem to invent what we need – admittedly, in addition to a whole bunch of stuff we don’t.
We probably could have done without the Pet Rock or bell-bottom pants, but in our lifetimes alone the list of incredible inventions is almost endless – and accelerating!
Each year, the U.S. Patent Office issues nearly 400,000 new patents!
Consider: from farm instruments to raise crops, to all the communications technologies I’ve mentioned, to artificial intelligence, and to artificial hearts and limbs, the list continues to grow.
Today we have even transitioned from edicts by the high priests of legacy media to the wild west of social media.
Yes, we always seem to find a way to invent what we need most. We needed an outlet to express ourselves; and by golly, we’ve got it!
So, what’s next? Well…now I’m going to offer a final prediction – and a homework assignment.
When you get home tonight, I hope you will write down my prediction, with perhaps some of your own – the more outrageous your predictions, the better!
Stick those predictions in an envelope, and write on the outside of the envelope, ‘Do not open until January 8, 2125” – 100 years from tonight. Throw the envelope in a drawer and hope that members of your family will pass it along until it’s time to open.
So, here is MY prediction: well within the next 100 years, someone will invent particle transport. I know it sounds crazy, but it WILL happen!
Why? Because we need to travel as rapidly as information travels – and we will!
Similar to the Star Trek transporter on the Enterprise, our progeny may beam to the store, to community meetings like this one, across town to work, or cross-country on vacation and business – and it will be safe, instant, clean and cost efficient. People will once again be involved – in person – with each other.
Sound crazy? If 98 years ago – two years before the invention of television in 1927 – someone had said, “We’re going to invent a system that sends sound and pictures you cannot see through the air to a receiver in your home. This receiver will have a screen and speakers where – someday with the click of a button on a handheld device while you sit on the couch — you will be able to choose from among hundreds of broadcasts that will bring you integrated sound and pictures on a large, crystal-clear flat screen mounted on your wall.”
Ninety-eight years ago, most people would have said that was crazy. But even then, a few would have winked and said…” we’re working on it.”
Why will particle transport be invented? Because we need it. With information everywhere, perhaps we will never again be its master. But we can be its equal, by being able to travel just as fast as data.
Perhaps particle transport will involve a marriage between quantum entanglement, Einstein’s matter-to-energy conversion principle, molecular imaging and assembly, or plasma and beam transport – driven by AI and quantum computing. Hell, I don’t know. It’s way beyond my pay grade.
But if you ask around today, while most folks will say “that’s crazy”, I can guarantee that someone out there will wink and say – right now: “We’re working on it.”
And when – not if – but when they succeed, people will once again travel just as rapidly as information – as we did for thousands of years. People will once again find it much easier to interact in person, to shake hands, to look each other in the eye, to hug. To BE there.
That’s MY crazy prediction? What’s yours? By all means, write it down and stick it in that envelope!
Our parents and grandparents expressed the same bewilderment at the world around them that we now often express as we look around – all compounded for us by the incredible speed at which information now travels, and by how rapidly so many other things continue to change.
So, what will WE say to our children, to our grandchildren? How can we encourage them to cherish humanity above information, participation above passivity? Freedom and merit above the smothering slavery of an oppressive bureaucracy?
If they abide by those principles, then perhaps the very best encouragement we can share – the best prediction of the future we can offer — has already been offered by… none other than Dr. Seuss:
Oh! The Places You’ll Go!
You’ll be on your way up!
You’ll be seeing great sights!
You’ll join the high fliers who soar to high heights.
Kid, you’ll move mountains!
So…be your name Buxbaum or Bixby or Bray or Mordecai Ale Van Allen O’Shea, you’re
off to Great Places!
Today is your day!
Your mountain is waiting.
So…get on your way!
Thanks, Folks. God bless you.
Beam me up, Scotty!
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